[spoilers!] Runaway/Fugitive open thread!
For those of you who are simply dying to talk IN DEPTH about The Fugitive: Plan B episodes, but are desperately trying not to spoil things for those who aren’t up to speed…
This thread is for you. Thanks for being so thoughtful of other fans. Have at!
WARNING: Do not enter, or thy will be SPOILED. You have been warned! 😀
— Stephe ^@@^
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i also want to know what Ji Woo wrote on the window to Jini. Can someone tell me what does it mean? Also i’m very curious to know what happened to Ji Woo’s parents.
About Nakamura unfortunately has gone mad cuz he found the gold and it was on his hand and then he lost it. About Jini i think that she is falling in love with Ji Woo that’s why she decided to finish everything herself and not involving Ji Woo any further in this messy situation that had gotten people kill in the process. Like Ji Woo’s friend Sa boo.
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Can someone tell me what Jiwoo wrote on the window on ep 14 when him && Jini were watching the police && the other girl by the pool ? I really wanna know what it says XD
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I want to know too.
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@divalcious
you are talking the one kieko wearing a hat and rain wear blsck & white on the streeat dancing right
same quetion i have see all 16 epi but none of them show that i wondering if director cut that off coz after rain & LNY have get together to Macau they been stay put together and i never see that shot either
hmmm i am so curious about that is director are goin to extended the FUGTIVER or what??
here my question??
1 director seeme to cut of alot partr that have most of the pict out but not in thr drama
2 kieko, and rain on the stree dance NOPE!1 i never see it eaither
3 remeber the brown sweather he wearing and look at the guy with funny look NOPE that was even in drama either
ect… their alot of missing in this drama so i wondering what is direactoe kwak thing or doing??
everbody have the same quetion about same as me!!
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Ladies,
I don’t think we’ve seen this scene yet. I don’t think the subplot of the romance between Kieko and Ji-Woo has been resolved yet. So, I expect to see her come back at some point in these last few episodes. (Which will probably create havoc with his blossoming relationship with Jini…)
Terri :-}
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Question…
In what ep did Kyoki and JiWoo walk on the street and do that silly dance? I seem to have skipped over that in some way but I’ve watched all the eps. Someone please enlighten me! Am I going crazy?? 🙂
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Diva,
That episode is still to come. We haven’t seen that scene yet.
Terri :-}
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Ok I’m about to watch eps 15 and 16. I’ll report back on my thoughts. 🙂
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Are you going to watch epi 15 and 16 with eng subs? If yes, can you post the site or link to find these episodes. It is killing me to wait for the eng subs.
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I feel in the begining Kai intentions were to protect Jinni because he loved her. That is why he told the old man that if he found the banknote for him that he would have to let Jinni live. However, this deal was a bad thing to do. Because he basically made a deal with the devil. It is never a good thing to make a deal with the devil. I feel because of his jealousy toward Ji Woo that his love has turned into obssession to win. I feel he may still love her but winning is more important. She is now like a business deal. He is use to winning everytime. That it kills him to see that she is slipping away from him and falling in love with Ji Woo. Which means he is losing. He is even willing to die to win her back. He has to win at all cost. He doesnot care that the old man is powerful. He saids he wants to protect her which may be true. But the real thing is he needs badly to win. So he has become cold harded and does not care about anything but winning.
@Marisara the reason Jinni was dressed in a navy officer suite was so Kai could have her taken off the ship undetected. If you remember the guy working for Kai erased her out of all the survallence videos on the ship. So it would look like she never was on the ship. So she had to be dressed like one of the military people to go undetected when she left the ship.
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That JiWoo take some money and accepted that the case was a suicide to solve it in a day seems true to me but there are something about Jini too. Why was she dressed as a navy officer at the beggining of the series? Is she an officer for real or Kai helped her to dress like that so she could have some clothes to wear? Also, Jini was investigating Ji Woo from some time before so she knows some of his past. I think she knows what happened to Kevin but she wouldn’t tell Ji Woo. Why? Is she a navy officer working for the government? Was Kevin and she related in some way? Maybe she is investigating Ji Woo for something else besides her parent’s murder? I think there is something about Jini that’s missing. I think that Ji Woo is in love with her but she can’t be with him coz she don’t trust him. Kai probably will die in the next episode or Ji Woo is going to be hurt badly and Jini is going to realize that she love him or Jini is the one hurt. I really don’t know but is going to be awesome. I loove Fugitive!!
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yeah i founf kai hve such an cold hearted person in the begining he wanted his business and also jinyi who could let goes for both he is self-fish in this drama and the old man yung Do hee hired sophie to be with him and reporting everything he doen but fourtunally she have feeling on kai and did wanted to to goes any farther over yinti!!
on epi 5 sophie even amdit to ask kai HOW LONG U GOING TO WAIT FOR HER ??
kai answer anytime as long she wanted to get married who betray and kill jiwoo foirend and haer family i would not trus anyone like kai here top of list he wanted to put a frame over jiwoo who are DETECTIVE himself and also who are a hungry money above his job as well… this very twitweed but also in a meaning of the story too i feel the betray over LNY she could just let goes of kai she seeme to fall into his spill over some sweet trus talk of him rain jiwoo found out about the BankNote! and figure that kai is one of the muder and partner with the old man but she denied the trus of trying to belive kai everything even though she no something is missing she new jiwoo been helping her cast and found out the merdick is but
still hide her thought and trush she scare to loss guy from her or she scare to facr kai and her family death if i were her i doen for good but i fell bad over jiwoo who have help her from beging and safe her life many time and she was not even apporciated all that to jiwoo until she see his tearing out over heklp her and his firend death it give her something serious of thinging about being team up together and found out about the GOLD are!! still kai have such selffish mentor in his work and a gril in his life who have pu LNY in danger and told her he can procted her what about jiwoo is he the one telgate her all the and save her death so amny time that why i like rain jiwoo coz he respect his own will and understand the love & the Money !!
oh well let wait and see what happen in epi 18
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Kai lost any right to be with JinYi from the very beginning. How the heck do you love somebody, sleep with them, propose marriage and plan a life of devotion with them, and it’s perfectly okay with you that your business partner and father figure KILLED HER FAMILY? Yeah, you’re good with that so long as she’s alive and you can fulfill your own urges, eh? It’s a “necessary” lie, for her own good, not for mine, honest.
REALLY?
Dude, you’re selfish as hell and no better than Chairman freakin’ Yang! You’re just taller and hotter, that’s all.
Busybee said it right: he’s treating his “love” for JinYi like a business transaction, where whether or not JiWoo “beats” him is the important thing. Episode 15 was VERY telling, in that regard. I don’t know what’s worse — obsessive-to-the-point-of-mental-illness love or I-own-you-like-a-business love, gah. And that “needing to protect JinYi” stuff has worn really thin when it’s obviously all about possessing her and satisfying his own urges in the process.
I wouldn’t even wish him on Sophie (who, by the way, needs a good therapist herself). Please stop offering yourself up as a substitute girlfriend in JinYi’s place, woman! You deserve more than that!
Ugh!
Stephe ^@@^
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i think Kai has been cold even from the very beginning. he says what he did was all to protect Jiny, but i wonder if he’s overlapped his business sense to his feelings of love. he seems to be treating his love interest like a business to me. telling JiWoo that he can’t win (referring to Jiny’s affections). and even though they lived together, Kai still was involved with Melchidec from the beginning. he as much said so when he framed JiWoo (saying he’s been tracking him since the Vegas case)…remember too, how he told the old man his ambitions had changed? that his only interest now was Jiny’s safety? that he thought he could have both? but realized he was wrong? look here, trust and loyalty went out the window from the very start of this drama. Kai trusted the old man but the old man put Sophie together with Kai and she was reporting back to him. that old man’s influence stretched far and wide. but i still kinda think Kai and Sophie should be together now. waiting to see how ALL OF THIS turns out.
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Oh Stephe girl saying it!! You are so funny!! It totally agree with what you are saying. The way you are thinking does not make you mean. This makes you smart and real. Kai has become really cold. What he did in the begining was in order to protect Jinni. However, even though he was trying to protect her what he did was very wrong. I agree with Sophie that his love has turned into obssession. That Jinni is like a business deal to him. He usually wins in his business deals. So he is determined to not loose to Ji Woo for the same reason. Sophie has lost her damn mind. I would no way ever put myself in harms way for someone who has told me they do not want or love me. I originally was hoping Kai would come around and give Sophie a chance. He had said before that it had crossed his mind that they could be together but he meet Jinni. From what I have seen from watching up to epi 14 I am thinking no way should Sophie give him the time of day. Kai would have to do something really big before I think Sophie should get with him.
“Oh lord help me. I so wish someone would finally put Kai out of his misery. I don’t know how much more of his pathetic wallowing I can take. I mean it’s gone into flippin’ OVERDRIVE.
And Sophie is a stone-trip. I am not getting myself killed over somebody who not only doesn’t want me, but treats me like crap in the bargain.
If that makes me mean, so be it. Life is short.”
Stephe ^@@^
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Oh lord help me. I so wish someone would finally put Kai out of his misery. I don’t know how much more of his pathetic wallowing I can take. I mean it’s gone into flippin’ OVERDRIVE.
And Sophie is a stone-trip. I am not getting myself killed over somebody who not only doesn’t want me, but treats me like crap in the bargain.
If that makes me mean, so be it. Life is short.
Stephe ^@@^
P.S.: What all of that means is… THE WRITING IS GREAT. (and amazingly realistic to boot)
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@Terri I agree with some of the things you said above to Aprilshowers07: I believe the following statement.
“Flawed Ji-Woo may be, but a bad guy he’s not.”
I agree with all the examples you gave that show he is not a bad guy.
I too believe Ji Woo has always been a good person. I think he has felt inorder to survive and be the number one detective he has to do what ever it took. But inside he was not a bad guy but maybe a little selfish.
Also, I agree based on how Ji Woo did not want to continue to talk about his parents that there is something going on about thier death. I cannot figure it out at this point. We will have to wait and see.
I disagree on the following:
“Yes, Ji-Woo suspected that the evidence in Jini’s adopted parents’ murder was much too perfect. He admitted to Jini that he was ambitious and greedy at the time and that he ultimately took the money (bribe) and reported the case as a suicide.”
“but the mere fact that he KNEW he was being set up during the murder investigation and he took the money ANYWAY ”
I agree with everything except Ji Woo did not take a bride. He took the money as payment like he would take for any case. What he did wrong was that he quickly said the murder case was a suicide. The reason he said that even though the evidence was too perfect was because he was being selfish. He was only concern about getting paid the large amount of money and solving the case in one day. So he would be the number one detective who solved a case in one day. So he did not bother to look into the evidence further. He accepted what was in front of him. He never knew he was being set up. He just thought he was getting over.
I think this is correct because of what he said to Do Soo. I think it was epi 13 or 14 in the scene on the roof. The scene where Ji Woo and Jinni meet Do Soo to ask him to help them. He tried to convience Do Soo to not make the same mistake he did. He told him something along these lines that to not accept the perfect evidence. Investigate and find out who is controling him. He admitted looking at Jinni that he too once accepted the perfect evidence and that he did not know he was being set up.
Also, earlier on in the drama this is why he was surpised that Jinni thought it was a murder. He still belived it was suicide until he thought about it. That he really did not take time out to really investigate it because he was only concerned about himself getting over.
This is what I think but I could be totally wrong. We will just have to wait and see how this awsome and exciting drama ends(hate to say the word end).
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Good points, Flower.
Although I still think he knew in the back of his mind that something was fishy and he took the money anyway. He may not have wanted to admit it to himself. I’ll have to go back and watch that scene with Jini but I believe that he said he hadn’t looked close enough and that he knew it at the time.
Gah. I’ve watched this thing a gazillion times and now I gotta go back and watch it one more time. Drat.
LOL.
Terri :-}
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Lol see… I took away the same thing that flower took away from that scene. I thought that he said that he just took the money quickly because he wanted to be the best and fastest. That he didn’t really try to look into the evidence much.
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@divalcious glad you interpreted that scene the same as I did.
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@terri you might be right that he knew in the back of his mind that something was fishy. He did think the evidence was too perfect. However, he did not care he only was looking out for himself. Which is what he has always done. He was only concerned with becoming the number one detective by solving a case in one day. Even though the evidence was too perfect he never suspected he was being set up. This is why he was trying to warn Do Soo to not except the evidence handed to him because it is too perfect. Investigate deeper to find out who is puppeting him around. You know I am going to have to go back a couple of episodes and watch it entirely or certain scenes. So I can make sure I have things straight. I do not mind because this drama is so good.
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@Terri and Stephe thanks both for your responses.
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about Fugitive being extended. nope. read about it on myjungjihoon blogspot. an official response from Fugitive writers.
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@Aprilshowers07 I think everything you said is correct. Except Master Jang was not Melchidic. The old man is Melchidic. I believe the old man or someone from his organization made up the false will and report that Ji Woo used to solve the case. The case was about Jinni uncle and aunt who had supposely commited suicide. Her grandparents and parents had already been killed. They talk about who died first, second, third in the first and second episode I believe. I believe this to be correct. If someone else know differently please post correct info. I hope this helps you.
“ok i dont know if its been talked about yet but im a lil confused about something jiwoo talked aboout. i think its episode 13 (which im currently on becuz my internet was messed up for a bit) but newways it was when jiwoo explained to jini that he concluded her parents case was a suicide bcuz he wanted fame n fortune n to be the first p.i. to solve a case in a day. now what im confused on is him saying that the evidence was too perfect but he took it as true so he could close the case n get fame. am i correct?? someone please expand for me. also was it master jang aka melchidic that made up the falsified will and reports that jiwoo saw and used for the case? is this why its karma that jiwoo is now gettin falsely accused with malicious and wrond documents bcuz he didnt investigate the documents for jinis family’s case??? thanks!!!”
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@Teri thanks for responding to my post. Your information does help. Can you or someone tell me if this is corrrect. After I thought about things this is what I think is correct:
1. The old man stole some of the gold during the time he was helping transport the gold. I cannot remember what episode but it was mentioned in the episode Kai asked the old man if he had anything to do with the gold going misssing. He said something to Kai that he invested the money into his and Kai business.
2. The old man, jinni grandfather and other soldiers (maybe) stole gold. The old man killed all the soilders because they knew he stole the gold. Jinni grandfather hid his portion he stole and put the location on a banknote. The old man needed to find where the remaining gold was so it would not be traced back to him. This would hurt his sons chances in becoming president. So he killed off everyone in Jinni family trying to find the banknote. I remember in the same episode I mentioned above the old man or someone said that the grandfather should have spent the gold like he did. Also, he threaten the old man to go public with everything. Also, I remember in the episode where Ji Woo and Jinni were about to be killed with the needle Ji Woo said to the old man that everyone who recieved a metal like him for transporting the gold died or was killed. I am assuming those were the soldiers.
3. Also, the old man want to melt down the gold because it would erase the korean imprint on top. Then when the gold cools he could still use it.
I think this is correct. What do you think? I am going to have to go back some episodes and rewatch certain scenes where they talk in detail about the gold. If you or anyone come up with anything please post it.
I have watched up to epi 14 with eng subs. What epi did they say Do Soo used his retirement and savings to move to the Phillipines?
Thanks.
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Hi, flower.
Please look down this thread to yesterday the 19th, when you posted this comment and Terri answered it. (you may not have seen it yet)
Thanks.
Stephe ^@@^
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Flower,
You’re welcome. Anytime. I also love discussing a good plot.
Regarding your thoughts on Fugitive: Plan B:
1. Yes, Chairman Yang was one of the soldiers who helped plot the theft of the gold bars. Jini’s grandfather was also involved, but we don’t yet know whether he was one of the original thieves, or whether he was an innocent soldier who somehow got embroiled in their plan. The answer to that is impossible to determine right now. Ji-Woo actually suggested to Jini in Episode 15 (I think…) that she prepare herself for what she will find out about her grandfather, and she got angry at him for suggesting such a thing. But we will see. And yes, the old man did invest some of the gold into his and Kai’s business.
2. Yes the old man has been killing everyone involved for years, to keep his crimes hidden, so his son could become president. However, in episode 16, it became clear that what the old man wants is the ultimate power that comes with having a son as president. Interestingly, though, the Chairman’s son appears to be an honest man, who wants to change the shape of politics in the future–much to his father’s displeasure. LOL.
3. Yes, Chairman Yang is greedy and he did intend to melt down the gold and then use it. Until Jini stole it that is. :-}
And the mention of Do-Soo cashing in all of his retirement and pulling out all of his cash from his accounts (not in those words, but that was the meaning) came in one of the most recent episodes, right after he left for the Philippines. I seem to recall it was the Captain and the Chief of the police department that were talking about it? Does anyone else remember that scene?
Glad I could help.
Terri :-}
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@sephe
yeah u could be right even thought it a extended 4 more or not i understand that why rain mush took his time off and have another concert in December for all his rehershal ect… regradless of his fugitive extended or not i still goes with the flow and i understand if wasn”t extended either but, if is true then i am willing enought to enjoy it i know rain might have a reson to relaxing and Rain will need time to totally focus on his up coming stage and music performances!!
that is true about rain is but what ever the outcome is it all good so i I am not holding my breath or getting to excited because I do understand Rain is what ever it come from director it alright with too !!
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ok i dont know if its been talked about yet but im a lil confused about something jiwoo talked aboout. i think its episode 13 (which im currently on becuz my internet was messed up for a bit) but newways it was when jiwoo explained to jini that he concluded her parents case was a suicide bcuz he wanted fame n fortune n to be the first p.i. to solve a case in a day. now what im confused on is him saying that the evidence was too perfect but he took it as true so he could close the case n get fame. am i correct?? someone please expand for me. also was it master jang aka melchidic that made up the falsified will and reports that jiwoo saw and used for the case? is this why its karma that jiwoo is now gettin falsely accused with malicious and wrond documents bcuz he didnt investigate the documents for jinis family’s case??? thanks!!!
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Aprilshowers07,
Yes, Ji-Woo suspected that the evidence in Jini’s adopted parents’ murder was much too perfect. He admitted to Jini that he was ambitious and greedy at the time and that he ultimately took the money (bribe) and reported the case as a suicide.
As a writer, though, something about his admission was bugging me to death. What I didn’t know was why it was bothering me. The why took me a few more episodes to figure out.
First of all, let me explain that a screenwriter is trained to have at least TWO (or MORE) purposes for each scene they write in a screenplay. Otherwise, the scene wouldn’t be considered important enough to include in the first place.
IMHO, this scene’s main (and only) purpose appears to be this: Ji-Woo wants to show Jini that he has changed, to prove to her that she can trust him. So, he tells her the truth. He tells her the truth because she ASKS him for the truth. He also knows that tellng her this truth will make her hate him even more. In the past, he might have lied to her and never thought twice about it, but now? Now, supposedly he has “changed,” changed dramatically, and so he tells her the truth.
Now that’s a pretty good purpose, and I think it’s solid and strong enough for the writers to have included this scene in the screenplay by itself. The problem is that this “purpose” only works if you believe the following: That Ji-woo’ core character has somehow changed.
And frankly, I don’t believe that. Not at all and not for one minute. Why? Because Ji-Woo has ALWAYS been loyal and honest. ALWAYS. From the very beginning of the story. And I’ll bet you that even back when he accepted that bribe and reported her adopted parents’ deaths as a suicide he was honest then too.
Now some of you may be thinking, how in the world can you say that? How can you believe that he has always been honest and loyal when he has lied so many times to everybody everywhere and cheated on every girl he has been involved with? All I can say is that the writers have very cleverly shown us the following:
1. Ji-Woo is smart as a whip. Although his reasons for doing things may not be clear, he ALWAYS has a reason for doing them. ALWAYS.
2. Ji-Woo has two faces. He has the face he lets the world see, the lying, cheating, bad guy. But he has another face that we catch a glimpse of every now and then. One that appears to be the face of the REAL Ji-Woo. And strangely that face looks more like a hero. (Batman!)
Flawed Ji-Woo may be, but a bad guy he’s not. And I don’t think he ever has been.
I mean seriously. How many times have we seen him act like an ass, only to do something else totally unexpected and heroic later? He uses Jini as bait. How horrible. But then later we find out that he has placed a tracking device on her and then ends up saving her AND finding the bad guys.
His Chinese associate loses all of his money to a loan shark. A Ji-Woo who didn’t care about people would have done nothing, wouldn’t have cared less. Instead, Ji-Woo makes a deal with the loan shark to help him get his money back, so that his friend wouldn’t have to die (too bad that didn’t work out, but he did try anyway…). Later, when he and Jini are at death’s door, he begs the bad guys to kill him first, then he turns to her and frantically tries to convince her that he is going to protect her, actually throws himself down at the killer’s feet to try and save her.
And those…THOSE are the kinds of actions that lead me to believe that there’s something about Ji-Woo and his involvement in the overall story that hasn’t yet been revealed. Those are the things that tell me there was a second reason for Ji-Woo’s admission of his involvement in that cover-up: To foreshadow to the viewer that Ji-Woo is embroiled in this plot for a reason of his very own.
There was a hint of this during an earlier episode, when Ji-Woo offhandedly mentioned to Jini that both of his parents were dead. Now that was very sad and all. And the writers could have just thrown that in to make the viewer (and Jini) feel sorrier for Ji-Woo, maybe to forgive him for being such an ass. The problem was when she asked how they died HE WOULDN’T TELL HER. At that moment, all of my RED flags as as writer went up and started whipping in the wind.
So. I say Ji-Woo is up to something. What it is, I haven’t a clue, but the mere fact that he KNEW he was being set up during the murder investigation and he took the money ANYWAY goes totally against much of what we know about Ji-Woo: that deep down in his heart he is incredibly smart, honest, and loyal to a fault.
Anyway my “guess” is that whatever he is up to has to do with his parents’ deaths and the reason he became a P.I. in the first place. Of course, I could be completely off-base and not know what the hell I’m talking about, but it sure is fun to speculate, isn’t it?
Ah, I love good writing!
Terri :-}
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I agree with you Terri, Ji Woo has something hidden that have to do with his parents. Maybe the old man killed his parents too? Ji Woo did mantion once that his mother loved him very much but he leaved it at that. I love the way this writer is doing things, specially with Jini and Ji Woo’s relationship. The writer is giving us their love little by little and that sometimes makes me crazy but in a good way. LOL We have to take in consideration that Jini and Ji Woo are very suspicious of one another coz all the baggage they carry with them. So their love is developing slooooowly but surely. I am trying to have patience coz I know at the end is going to be awesome. Let’s see what happen in the next episode coz that sniper is vicious and can kill Kai, hurt Jini or hurt Ji Woo. I really don’t know what is going to be and I love that. 😀
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Your reasoning is very intriguing. I really feel u on it. Jiwoo always has something up his sleeve. He’s never really been a bad guy, just a jerk at times (to jini) but he always gets her our of it. I think what showed Jiwoo’s soft heart was when he was in the car and wrote on the paper that “Ill always be with u (or always be on ur side) [one of those two, i cant remember off the back.] That was soo sweet and showed that she should put her trust in him. I believe he knew what was happening to him was a sort of karma from his greediness from jinis peoples murder. BUT i do feel that if it were any other P.I. like Nakamura or James Bong in Jiwoos shoes they would have done the exact same thing.
Now my question is is Nakamura a bad guy?
Its like one minute he wants to get the facts, the next hes about to be buried alive, and then the next he’s trying to get Jiwoo killed. I feel like there is a deeper meaning to Nakamura for him to be so cold. Jiwoo saved him multiple times but he seems to want more.
Last question: Why did Jini take the gold from Jiwoo or better yet why did she stop trusting him? he kept his promises to her and saved her life multiple times but she changes as soon as that gold came into play. I almost feel like the bad guys handled dealing with the gold better because they are more used to valuable things and how to act around them. When you get a regular person and then has to make a decision on something that’s so valuable, the morality goes out the window. {no one beat me up for saying that, it was just a possible explanation] BUT NEWHO I feel that Jiwoo probably would have spent that gold bar he kept, but why not. heck he put his life on the line too many times for jini, and did way more for this case than should have been. he deserves at least one!! BATMAN SAVED THE DAY DANG IT!
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Aprilshowers,
Absolutely, Ji-Woo has the softest heart ever. The message “I’ll always be by your side, client” was given to make sure that Jini knew for sure that he would never abandon her. No matter what it looked like, he WOULD be there for her.
Is Nakamura a bad guy? Well, yes, but mostly he’s just greedy. He’s making really dumb mistakes because he can’t see past the gold. And that’s going to cause him some grief, I imagine. In fact, in the end, I expect him to die. At least, that’s how I’d play it, if I was the writer. His death would also cause Ji-Woo great grief too, because as irritated and angry as Ji-woo is at Nakamura, the man is still his mentor and so Ji-Woo cares for him. And as we know, being Ji-Woo’s mentor can be a really BAD thing. I mean look what happened to his other mentor?
Honestly, I don’t think Jini ever stopped trusting Ji-Woo. I think she left him because she didn’t want him to be hurt anymore. She wanted him out of the game. To me the purpose of the “Ji-Woo taking the gold bar and Jini’s ditching him” scene was to show Jini had changed.
Remember in the beginning, when she told Kai that she had chosen Ji-Woo to solve the case, to find Melchidec, because she didn’t care whether he died or not? She just didn’t care. Well, now she does. And so she picks a fight with him about the gold so that she can leave him behind. She even says that in the car when she knows he’s listening through the tracking device. She didn’t want him to be hurt anymore. (Or something to that effect.) She ditched him to try and save him.
LOL. As for the gold bar that Ji-Woo saved: Well…he SAID that his intent was to make sure that not all of the gold got in the hands of the bad guys again, that he didn’t want to put all of their “eggs” in one basket. He wanted to make sure that if something happened to the gold and it got taken again, then they would still have some evidence that it had existed.
Do I believe him? Yes, I do. Did Jini? Yes, I think she did. BUT that still didn’t change her plan, which was to confront Chairman Yang ALONE, so that no matter how it went down 1) Ji-Woo would stay safe and 2) it would be GAME OVER.
Terri :-}
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Yes, it might be true, kongsao.
But I’m waiting for confirmation so that in case it isn’t, I don’t get disappointed. That’s just the way I roll.
Stephe ^@@^
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@stephe
nooaaaa !! i think it true coz, i have talk to director about this and message to him about but it was not come out from his mouth to comfrim it yet but i belive it is true !! i differenly thing it will !!
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The last word I’ve heard (supposedly from one of the Fugitive production crew) is that it’s just a rumor and that Rain’s schedule does not allow for more episodes anyway. He has too much to do as it is.
We’ll keep an eye out for any updated news.
If it doesn’t come from Director Kwak or KBS, I wouldn’t get all excited about it. You KNOW how the media is.
Stephe ^@@^
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@stephe & Terii ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
@busybee1982
HELLO !! rain agree with me to extended FUGITIVE PLANVB 4 moreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee yahoooooooooooooooooooooooo OH HALILUYA!!!! OMG! OMG!! even just 4 more i am happy enought to bugging him gosh i just message him and director last week and they agreed with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i am so so happy guys yessssssssssssssss THANK U JIWOO for tooking my word for u are my lover ahahah i SHOCK!! when i read it they well extended 4 more epi SCREAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!! it not axzactly comfrim yet but i belive it will be 4 more long !!
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Really, Kongsao?
Can this be true?
Let us know when this is confirmed, please.
Terri :-}
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Oh, that would be great!!!! I would love for them to extend it so we can see more of Ji Woo and Jini. I almost fell of my chair laughing when I saw him drooling on that pillow but what really got me was his bad boy face after that. ROFL Rain is soo hillarious and he is making a Ji Woo that nobody would forget. 😀
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@busybee1982
yes!! i am i craking and laughthing out hard and i did see the stain stain on the pillowcase and he mouth just to craking u uip i could STOP wathing this epi mind our harlious jiwoo such a drak funny person that i love him so much that i would love he can sho the movie in US like this kin genre comedy so perfect for rain the nexr comedia guy ALIVE!! LOL!!! Rain is so funny noticed the huge drool spot on his pillow 😆
dran it only two more week it does fly so fast dram december just around coner i hate to ending as well but fugitive very bought us who jiwoo imspiration in this drama and i very see alot funny side of him and srak and some kick ass in his plot too i just hope our rain get alot rest after this filming and yet eat as much he can the underweather is so very cold stay warm for us jiwoo and i would to applause all the effort in this drama u bring for us for the pass asbent 5 years i differenly but it the drama is awesome and megnificent that anybody love it !! well. to it my number #1 of it!!
i so enjoy watching him acting and see the harklious of rain he make me smile every min and epi!!
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time really flies by when your having fun and Fugitive has brought me a whole lot of giggles, outright laughs and clapping my hands with glee. JiWoo! i just have to have the guy in my house, hahaha
it seems that most say JiWoo played batman, but i kinda thought he was impersonating looking at Jiny through his own binoculars. just my thought when he circled his eyes. but, oh my goodness the next morning! Jiny finds JiWoo in the bed with his mouth open and tough hanging out, i thought i would fall out my chair laughing at JiWoo, darn did anybody even pay attention to the stain on the pillowcase, hahaha go look at that again, hahahaha talk about being realistic! and gut busting funny.
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LOL,
OH YES, I noticed the “drool.” Grossssssss me out. ROFL.
Stephe and I talked about that scene last night. That whole scene made us LOL. We had often said that we didn’t think Rain could take a “bad” picture or be caught in a bad shot, right? At least, that’s the way seemed before Domangja, where he seems to have gone out of his way to be as insanely goofy as he can.
Case in point, the opening of 14, where we have Rain with his butt in the air and his tongue hanging out and him drooling on a pillow. My God. How absolutely terrific.
Great googly moogly, Batman! :-}
Terri
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I love everything!!!! LOL The outfits, the scenery; boy, those hotels are beautiful with modern decorations, those chandeliers, sofas. Sigh., also love Ji Woo sense of humor; nobody but Rain can pull off that and not overdo it. He keeps just the right balance so you don’t get bored or feel that is too corny. The sexual tension in episode 14 was off the charts!! I swear, you could feel it tru the screen, only Rain can put soo much sex without even a kiss!!! I was fanning myself during the whole part. LOL Lord, I don’t know how Jini could resist him!!! The batman impersonation just kill me. He is soo funny and his timing is awesome; I love Ji Woo’s goofyness. The scene between Do Soo and the girl was sooo hot for a korean series!!! That’s great coz it should mean that Ji Woo and Jini are going to have something better. Well, I hope. I like that tender kiss in Jini’w cheek; it was like ok, I am going to wait for you. Awwww!!! Their ckemistry is very good; they complement each other. Rain is magnificent and looks spectacular. Looove every minute and I am going to miss it soo much when is over. 😀
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@Teri thanks for responding to my post. Your information does help. After think about things this is what I think is correct:
1. The old man stole some of the gold during the time he was helping transport the gold. I cannot remember what episode but it was mentioned in the episode Kai asked the old man if he had anything to do with the gold going misssing. He said something to Kai that he invested the money into his and Kai business.
2. The old man, jinni grandfather and other soldiers (maybe) stole gold. The old man killed all the soilders because they knew he stole the gold. Jinni grandfather hid his portion he stole and put the location on a banknote. The old man needed to find where the remaining gold was so it would not be traced back to him. This would hurt his sons chances in becoming president. So he killed off everyone in Jinni family trying to find the banknote. I remember in the same episode I mentioned above the old man or someone said that the grandfather should have spent the gold like he did. Also, he threaten the old man to go public with everything. Also, I remember in the episode where Ji Woo and Jinni were about to be killed with the needle Ji Woo said to the old man that everyone who recieved a metal like him for transporting the gold died or was killed. I am assuming those were the soldiers.
3. Also, the old man want to melt down the gold because it would erase the korean imprint on top. Then when the gold cools he could still use it.
I think this is correct. What do you think? I am going to have to go back some episodes and rewatch certain scenes where they talk in detail about the gold. If you or anyone come up with anything please post it.
I have watched up to epi 14. What epi did they day Do Soo used his retirement and savings to move to the Phillipines?
Thanks.
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“What epi did they day Do Soo used his retirement and savings to move to the Phillipines?”
Flower,
One of the latest episodes, right after he vanished to the Philippines.
Terri :-}
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Please can someone answer my questions, thank you.
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It is totally believable that JiWoo would use Biore pore strips on his nose in episode 15. Maintaining that perfect skin is very important, in his line of business there is so much stress and suffering an acne breakout because of that would be disastrous to his good looks.
You go, JiWoo, enjoy your spa days, dude. LOL 😛
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Can someone explain to me in ep14 where did Det. Do Soo get all the money to spend? Did he catch in some of the gold?
Also, I forget which ep. 13 or 14 was the reason the old man wanted to melt down the gold was so it would not have the writing on it. So there will not be any way to trace it back to the war and him. He is still going to keep the gold once it cools down correct?
Also, I know that Jinny grandfather held onto the banknote that showed where the gold was barried. And the old man want to get rid of the gold so there will be know way to trace it back to him. However, can someone answer these questions:
Who barried the gold?
Did Jinny grandfather have anything to do with the gold been stolen while it was being transported?
Why did her grandfather hold onto the banknote?
Didn’t the old man actually steal some of the gold and invest it into his and Kai business?
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Okay,
I think the dialogue said that Do Soo cashed in his retirement and pulled all of his money out of his savings to disappear to the Philippines. No, he didn’t use any of the gold.
Yes, the old man wanted to melt down the gold so there would be no evidence of it, and yes, he wanted to be able to use it once he melted it down, although mainly he just wanted to be rid of it, because it was evidence of his evil doings that would keep his son from becoming President.
Jini’s grandfather was part of the military unit who stole the gold I believe. I can’t figure out where the plot went wrong and why he ended up on the good side. I’m watching the episodes again on TV and so if I find out what happened with Jini’s grandfather, I’ll let you know.
Don’t know who buried the gold. Like I said, Jini’s grandfather had something to do with the gold being stolen, but he may not have been part of the plot. Anyone else remember?
Her grandfather held onto the banknote because he was trying to figure out a way to expose the plot.
I don’t remember whether or not the old man actually used some of the gold or not.
Terri :-}
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I up and forgot what I wanted to talk about.
Kidding! I actually have tons of things to mention.
I LOVED in ep 12 when Sgt. Do (Lee Jung Jin) got all extra manly and started going off on people left and right. Standing up to his boss and stuff. Those scenes were electrifying. Lee Jung Jin has really grown on me. His portrayal of a man having a crisis of faith in his job and, by extension, the morals and standards he believes the police should stand for, is excellent.
The storyline they had to quickly come up with about the professor (forget her name) getting “killed” was really well done, considering that they only had a few days to come up with that. Isn’t she supposed to be coming back to the show after she feels better? If so, I wonder how they’ll write that in.
Was it ep 12 when Jini got out of jail and was walking down the street and almost got abducted? I was gasping during that part because they made it look so real!
That killer Dr. Lee, is ultra scary isn’t he? He gives me the shivers because he’s so cold blooded and cold eyed.
ep 14 was so good too. I loved the scene where Jini and JiWoo started arguing in the middle of the restaurant and managed to get the gangster guy to come outside. That whole scene was so cute.
The scene at the window watching Sgt. Do and the girl detective(forget her name) was really good too. JiWoo is too funny AND he looked hot as hell in that outfit, didn’t he? I had to fan myself on that one. I’m really surprised at the kissing and the sleeping together too. Those scenes would be so tame here but in Korea that is some hot stuff!
I was SHOCKED that Sgt. Do took the gold bars and started living the high life. I was so not expecting that.
Can’t wait to see the new episode where they attend the party. Can you imagine there’s not that many episodes to go? I was thinking about that while watching ep 14. I don’t want it to end!
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Yes, Diva.
I can’t believe it’s almost over. How depressing…
Sigh.
Terri :-}
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Oh my goodness…
I cannot believe so few Clouds are over here talking about this show!! Especially since every five minutes someone somewhere is saying, “Oh, I loved the part where…OH, but I can’t talk about that because I don’t wanna SPOIL it for anybody.”
Well, now you CAN!! So, TALK.
As for me, I adored the last scene of Episode 14, where Jini and Ji-Woo are watching the detectives make out by the pool? ROFL. Uncomfortable much, Ji-Woo?
And wasn’t Rain’s comedic timing spectacular? LOL. Binoculars to glass. I don’t like any of those…I’ll take number 4.
Batman!!!
Ha ha!
Terri :-}
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@stephe
phew!!! @@_@@
i am sploing all over tis guy are ready my fanfril neve ending and that hotness sickness of him what more can u ask he teaseer even drop more flame on oh yeah i am big time SPOLIED on my montior and the chest wooooooooooooot am so doorling !!
it would b better if he just stright naked right nowwwwwwwwwww!! ahahah :P) 😯
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OOh! I love it! I can’t wait to get home and type madly away about the show. Shh… I’m at work. Don’t tell anyone!
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