99 Responses to “[CF of the week] 비 Yourself Open Thread for 7/23 – 7/29.”

  1. Thanks for unblocking me.

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    • Don’t thank us. No one blocked you, not from here. Not that I think you would ever believe that, but whatevs.

      Stephe ^@@^

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      • Ya know I always try to take the hi road, and if someone doesn’t like what I say or it’s taken in the wrong context I will and have apologized. If my apology is not accepted? But I’m HERE for RAIN! JiHoon Jung….

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        • NO ONE BLOCKED YOU. No one had any reason to block you. Apology for what? *confused as hell*

          Stephe ^@@^

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        • Lotus,

          We are glad you are here for Rain. We just wish you would stop assuming that someone has done something nefarious to you every single time you have trouble with your PC. It’s insulting as hell.

          There is only one person in the world we have blocked. And I believe everyone knows who she is. (And it’s not you.)

          Just because someone disagrees with us from time to time is not a reason to block people.

          Terri :-}

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          • Well I’m hardly ever on my pc anymore and I was feeling so good about the GP being revised that I was going to post a video here, which is why I was using my pc. Which btw is fine and I didn’t have problems going to any other sites and posting and getting response’s, and if I had problem’s with anything I have always asked you ladies. ( I may not be a computer wiz but I’m not dumb).So if you choose to say it was me not this site? So be it. But I’ve always liked cloudusa and would like to continue to get emails so I can keep up with Rain. And I’m not now and have not used sarcasm to talk with you ladies. I think I have always shown everyone here respect.

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            • Lotus,

              I’m certainly not being sarcastic. I’m being frank. I don’t understand that you don’t understand how insulting it is that you always immediately assume that we are “blocking” you every single time you have PC issues. That is a little more than annoying and, frankly, hurts my feelings a lot.

              If you have any more issues with the blog, please do e-mail me at terri@cloudusa.org, where we can talk in more depth, and I’ll try to help you.

              I’d like to keep the comments here on the blog about Rain stuff.

              Thank you,

              Terri :-}

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    • Lotus,

      What are you talking about??? No one has blocked you.

      Terri :-}

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  2. Why is my PC blocked from here? This is the only blog I’m on beside Jess and I know I’m not blocked there. So the only reason I’m able to comment is from my phone. What’s up???

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  3. Final Global Post update:

    The SECOND revision has been changed from this:

    The soldiers faced unprecedented tough disciplinary actions after a local TV network last month secretly taped a group of soldiers on a night out.

    Two of them were caught by a camera crew in front of a massage parlor late at night after failing to get service. Others caught on video included K-pop star Rain and Seven, drinking together in a private restaurant following a performance for a military event.

    However, Rain was cleared of any misconduct worthy of punishment and was released by the Defense Ministry two weeks ago, Seoul Broadcasting System reported.

    To this:

    Seven celebrity soldiers who were caught on camera drinking and entering a massage parlor were sentenced to several days in a military prison for violating the military code of conduct, the defense ministry said Thursday.

    The soldiers faced unprecedented tough disciplinary actions after a local TV network last month secretly taped a group of soldiers on a night out.

    Two of them were caught by a camera crew in front of a massage parlor late at night after failing to get service. Others were shown drinking together in a private restaurant following a performance for a military event.

    With this added on:

    Correction: This article has been edited from an earlier version, which included erroneous information suggesting that the performer Rain was involved in recent misconduct.

    Wow.

    GP has reminded me that all journalists across the world are NOT alike, and that some do indeed still put value on the truth in news.

    Holy cow. I just had to note these changes in writing here, for future reference.

    Stephe ^@@^

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/yonhap-news-agency/130725/seven-celebrity-soldiers-sent-military-prison-scandalous-out

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    • My deep/sincere respect for you all who would put your timeless effort
      to make changes through truth,and courage from twisted ill minded people blaming falsely with wrong information fed by Korean media with repeat wrong information with only their rate competition each other,
      without decent soul of humanity so far happening in Korea media,so disappointed
      I just hope USA/Other country media will search/report their information through based in truth correct,and especially using of name of people they are going to write to show to this whole world in it people to read who wants news that is all truth based is basis ethic
      I appreciate your hard work very much,and appreciate globalpost to make correction

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    • Perseverance does pay off in the long run does it not? THANK YOU Global Post for being TRUE journalists that care about the integrity of the stories you print. We appreciate that you cared about our concerns and in that vein made the story right. More than those of us who read your article appreciate the changes, I would be willing to bet that JiHoon Jung aka Rain appreciates it even more than we do. Again Thank You!

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  4. Hope PSY can get some help and a handle on his issue before it becomes worse.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/28/psy-drinking-problem_n_3666995.html?utm_hp_ref=celebrity?ref=topposts

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    • For the life of me I can’t understand why some famous people tell all they business! Especially anything like this. If their having personal problems like this get help from his private fan club if ya just feel the need to broadcast it. Because the media just like they did, will go back and find every piece of negativity on you they can just to make matters worse.
      But I do hope he takes care of that. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy. Sigh…

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      • I know, right?

        (Psy what are you DOING? Please be quiet.)

        Terri :-}

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        • That’s one more thing some crossover celebs will have to get used to. I know celebs in general keep their personal life and issues quiet, but it’s in the culture of South Korea for celebs to run that mouth, especially coming from the entertainment culture of those variety shows. Over here…..a different ball of wax. Celebs are not quite as forthcoming and take themselves Way too seriously sometimes. Which is good and annoying at the same time. The Korean shows at least give their celebs a more “human” appeal, celebs over here give the same “robotic” boring interview answers that makes you feel like….why did I waste my time watching that interview? However, on this issue PSY needs to chill and just go handle it without inviting the added outside pressure or scrutiny.

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          • You’re right. I watch Korean celebs on TV shows and I find myself thinking, ‘did you REALLY say that? REALLY?’. LOL. But like you said, those shows are a heck of a lot more interesting than interviews here in the U.S. I don’t even bother to watch them because they’re all like Rain’s Ninja Assassin promo interviews.

            “I ate ONLY chicken and vegetables for eight months, and worked out 8 hours a day 6 days a week. It was horrible.” LOL.

            Terri :-}

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    • Holy crap.

      Wow. Dude will learn one day…

      Stephe ^@@^

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  5. FYI, peeps: The Global Post has changed the part of their article that we were protesting from this:

    The soldiers faced unprecedented tough disciplinary actions after a local TV network last month secretly taped them. They included K-pop star Rain and Seven, drinking together in a private restaurant following a performance for a military event. Two of them were caught by a camera crew in front of a massage parlor late at night after failing to get service.

    To this:

    The soldiers faced unprecedented tough disciplinary actions after a local TV network last month secretly taped a group of soldiers on a night out.

    Two of them were caught by a camera crew in front of a massage parlor late at night after failing to get service. Others caught on video included K-pop star Rain and Seven, drinking together in a private restaurant following a performance for a military event.

    However, Rain was cleared of any misconduct worthy of punishment and was released by the Defense Ministry two weeks ago, Seoul Broadcasting System reported.

    This is the comment I’ve left in response:

    Global Post, I really appreciate that you restructured the third paragraph in this article so that it is clearer that Rain was not at the massage parlor, and also added a new fourth paragraph, stating that the military found that Rain did nothing wrong that night.

    I am still quite uncomfortable with the way the (rewritten) second sentence in the third paragraph reads and could be interpreted, but seeing as, technically, Rain and Seven very well might have been drinking together in a private restaurant with the commanders, I will not push the issue.

    Thank you for listening and responding when we asked for help.

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    I got the distinct feeling with this rewrite that GP was kind of playing a word game, you know, splitting hairs if you will (“I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman”). Technically, peeps, he was captured on video. Not doing anything wrong, but on video nonetheless. (I also got the distinct feeling that they might have seen something in their additional research that maybe I haven’t…)

    The important thing here is that GP did at least reach out and try to work with us, and did a revision that is better than what they originally wrote.

    I think I can live with that. This time.

    Stephe ^@@^

    P.S. CloudUSAers, thanks for ALL your help!^__^

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/yonhap-news-agency/130725/seven-celebrity-soldiers-sent-military-prison-scandalous-out

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    • LOL.

      Well, I guess it doesn’t matter that what the wrote is still wrong. He was seen on the video walking on the street. They never filmed him doing anything wrong that I could find except walking down the sidewalk in civilian clothes, which DEMA said he had permission to do (because he had permission to go to that dinner in civvies).

      I think this reporter needs more schooling. Sigh.

      Terri :-}

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    • Exactly Terri, all I saw was Rain walking in a parking lot On Camera. I didn’t see him “captured” on tape eating, drinking, scratching his @ss…..Nothing….but walking. So, splitting hairs? maybe, but right is still right and we have right on our side regardless. Like a said several comments ago. They have relented and decided to “restructure” their articles but still keep Rain’s name “in” it.

      No, what these “reporters” don’t want to happen is being blindsided walking to their own damn cars at night cause of that ole “payola” they got to smear Rain’s name in the first place. Cloud pressure forced them to have to change the articles. YES Korean Media, the world IS watching AND reading YOUR inaccurate articles.

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    • Your right it is splitting hairs. But at least they did correct some of it. Just wish other media like CNN would also acknowledge and correct.

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      • Well consider’em split cause I still say right is right…….BUT, ultimately I’m cool that they even listened and changed the report at all. CNN on the other hand, obviously has no intention of changing anything. So the inaccurate Rain smearing report still stands…..and the comments below it are even stupider. Sad, sad, sad…………………

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        • Yes, I gave up on CNN long ago. So embarrassing for a company that was once so admired. I think they have existed off of that earlier reputation for far too long now. In other words, I think their comeuppance is far overdue.

          Terri :-}

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          • Here, HERE!

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          • Totally agree! They used to be on par with 60 minutes back in the day when Bernard Shaw was one of the anchors, but now they’re just straight up Tabloid. I miss the days of the Bernard Shaws, Max Robinsons, Peter Jennings’ and several others that are either retired or deceased. News….there’s no such thing anymore. Pity.

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        • Jerkoffs.

          Stephe ^@@^

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    • Great news, ladies!!!

      Global Post has finally corrected their article and now it is the epitome of stellar reporting.

      http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/yonhap-news-agency/130725/seven-celebrity-soldiers-sent-military-prison-scandalous-out

      Thank you, Global Post, for listening and caring!

      Terri :-}

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      • Wow, Thank you Global Post for not just listening but actually hearing what we had to say. Thanks for going against the grain….it’s much appreciated!

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      • Now that’s what real journalism is about. Great job CLoud family!!!

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      • I received this reply from the Global Post editor (deputy editor of breaking news) before she revised the article:

        Dear Stephe,

        Thank you for sending along these details. I’ll review the links this morning and make any changes necessary to the article.

        As you noted, yes, I’d recommend you contact Yonhap as well.

        All the best,
        L.

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        Seeing as she revised it in stages, she probably kept on finding things.

        All I can say, looking at the final version, is WOW. I am stoked. Thank you, Global Post!!

        Stephe ^@@^

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  6. FYI: My email correspondence directly with a Global Post editor, sent late last night. — Stephe ^@@^

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    My name is Stephe Thornton, and I received your email address from concerned reader Kathryn Tsudama. Thank you so much for responding to her. Here are some details concerning the situation at hand.

    Regarding your article http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/yonhap-news-agency/130725/seven-celebrity-soldiers-sent-military-prison-scandalous-out:

    The following sentence is not true: “They included K-pop star Rain and Seven, drinking together in a private restaurant following a performance for a military event.” The local TV station used Rain’s name flagrantly when he was not with the group of soldiers who were taped at all. This came out in the investigation. He was in none of the restaurant footage because the military made it clear that Rain had stayed behind and eaten with his commanders after the show that night instead. A Korean media source for this information is here: (innolife.co.kr/list.php?ac_id=3&ai_id=6444 )

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    The following sentence is suggestive: “Two of them were caught by a camera crew in front of a massage parlor late at night after failing to get service.” It was Seven and Sangchu who were caught by the camera crew. The way this sentence follows the erroneous sentence about RAIN and Seven, it suggests that Rain and Seven were the ones at the massage parlor.

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    The Korea Herald, who used the same Yonhap News source as was used for your article, correctly names Sangchu and Seven, not Rain. From what I understand, they made the same error due to Yonhap at first, but have since revised their piece. http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130725000853

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    Here, Rain is not included or mentioned in SBS-sourced reports after the fact, because he’s not in any screen shots nor in any incriminating shots in the original video report. SBS expected him to be with the group under fire because he was with them at the performance, and totally misled the public by not clarifying that he actually wasn’t when they realized it themselves. (http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=106&oid=311&aid=0000235270 )

    They didn’t film him getting off the bus or going in the motel. Or coming back out and walking the streets to that restaurant, or sitting in there eating and drinking. His long-sleeved sweatshirt with the number “8”, khaki shorts, and green and white cap only came in the footage towards the end when he showed up, fetched a soldier, and went back to quarters.

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    This article in the Dong.A.Ilbo is one of the sources that plainly states the facts and does not use Rain’s name and his scandal from January for ratings like others in Korea, who take SBS’s first report as gospel and are ignoring updated facts in the news. (http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=040000&biid=2013072691208 )

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    Here is an article posted by Yonhap News where the military specifically said they had no problems with Rain’s whereabouts that night and that he had been where he was supposed to be. Later they clarified that he had been with eating with his commanders and had gone back to his quarters as instructed (see above). (http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&aid=0006352830&mid=shm&oid=001&sid1=106&nh=20130704115837 ) As we understand it, this is the English translation of that article:

    Yonhap News 7/4/2013 — [English translation by 화니]

    Rain to leave the army on the 10th as scheduled. The inspection of entertainment soldiers is extended.

    The Defense Ministry judges Rain that he had no problem of his whereabouts on that day when entertainment soldiers were embroiled in controversy.

    On the 4th, the Defense Ministry decided to prolong the special inspection of the operation status of entertainment soldiers by another week.

    Defense Department Spokesman ‘Wui Yong-Seop’ (army colonel) said at a regular briefing today, “There is more yet to be confirmed, and therefore we have decided to extend the inspection because we’ll have to make sure that the soldiers and working-level officials of the Defense Media Agency have done their jobs right.

    Continuing, “We’ve been investigating the allegations that the persons in charge have been entertained regarding the business affairs of military broadcasting ‘Consolatory Train’ run by the Defense Media Agency.” and “When the results of the inspection are in, the relevant soldiers will strictly be disciplined in accordance with law.”

    Since the testimony of the relevant soldiers who held a drinking party and who visited a massage parlor and that of witnesses are not consistent, the special inspection team is known to have done lot of legwork in an effort to find an eyewitness regarding the soldiers’ whereabouts last 21st when the incident occurred.

    In particular, it is known that Rain went back to the lodge after he arrived at the place and checked in, went to his room, unpacked, had dinner when a local concert featuring those soldiers including him ended after 9:00pm at that time.

    An official from the Defense Ministry said, “We judge Rain that he had no problem of his whereabouts on that day. He’ll leave the army on the 10th as scheduled.”

    It has been known that serious problems have surfaced as a result of the inspection of the status of the management and operation of the service support troop.

    The Defense Ministry say that when they find there is a severe problem with the service support troop, the entertainment soldier system could be abolished.

    Credit to Yonhap News : http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&aid=0006352830&mid=shm&oid=001&sid1=106&nh=20130704115837
    English translation by 화니

    Rain was not filmed drinking in a private restaurant following his performance or carousing with his troop mates. His only scandal was back in January, concerning his misconduct with actress Kim TaeHee. He was discharged from the military on time and without penalty because of his non-involvement in the June scandal, and does not deserve this kind of damage to the reputation he’s worked hard to build back.

    I do understand that Yonhap should be contacted directly in order to stop the erroneous information at its source.

    I am hoping that the Global Post will also correct its article in light of this information. I would be most appreciative if you could do that. I did not mean to bombard you with so much information. I simply wasn’t sure what all you needed.

    Thank you very much for your time and concern.

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    Sometimes I can access the Innolife site in Korea, and sometimes I cannot. I don’t know if it’s my computer or something else. But just in case you have any trouble, here is the article in its entirety from my media blog on Cloud USA.

    Innolife 7/6/2013 —

    Rain will be discharged from military as planned on 10th… Ministry of National Defense would give him no punishment

    Among the controversy around the reality of the military services done by entertainment soldiers, the singer Rain (Jung Ji-Hoon) will be discharged from the military as previously arranged on coming 10th.

    Colonel Wi Yong-Sup from Ministry of National Defense talked about the situation of the progression of the specialized investigation about the reality of entertainment soldiers’ military services which became the controversy through the recent report given by SBS ‘Site 21’, in the Cabinet meeting held in the briefing room of the Ministry of National Defense in Seoul, Yongsan-gu, on 5th. According to Ministry of National Defense, the soldier Jung Ji-Hoon has nothing related to the controversy surrounding the entertainment soldiers’ military services, and he will be discharged on 10th as previously arranged without punishment.

    Rain had been in the center of controversy when SBS ‘Site 21’, which was broadcast on 25th of last month, reported the scene of him having meal and drinking alcohol outside after the performance of consolation for soldiers. About this, Ministry of National Defense said “Rain came back later after the consolation performance, and couldn’t have a meal with other soldiers. Therefore, after he had meal with the executives, he came back to his lodgings and went to sleep.” About the suspicion toward drinking alcohol, it was explained that “even if Rain had drunken alcohol, it was caused by the order given by the executive. The commanders could have offered him to drink in terms of encouragement.”

    The result of other entertainment soldiers’ specialized investigation will be notified on next week. According to the Ministry of National Defense, the investigation of other entertainment soldiers, excluding Rain, and the commanders in charge of those will be proceeded as scheduled, and the investigation will be finished in next week, followed by strict action.

    Source: http://www.innolife.co.kr/list.php?ac_id=3&ai_id=6444

    Thank you.

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  7. Saving this link for future reference… the misleading Yonhap News brief that started a whole bunch of sh*t. (Even a Global Post editor admitted that this thing is “misleading.”)

    http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2013/07/25/0200000000AEN20130725006400315.html

    And this one… Hey, here’s an idea, South Korea. If you want to lower the suicide rate a bit, GET A GRIP ON YOUR MEDIA AND REPORTERS, as they and your netizens regularly team up to torture people and drive them to it.

    http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2013/07/26/0302000000AEN20130726003100315.html

    Stephe ^@@^

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    • You know? It’s so weird. I used to think that the American Media was crap. And it is for the most part. Still, they’ve got NOTHING on the Korean Media. Nothing at all.

      Terri :-}

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      • The Korean media and the Stepford netizens……South Korea’s modern day “lynch mob.”

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        • It’s horrible. Makes me look at Korea completely differently now and I really hate that.

          Terri :-\

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          • Like Stephe said…..they don’t have to look very far as to why their suicide rate is so damned high. Umm……public Smear Campaigns and Lynch Mobs much???

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    • GREAT investigative reporting Stephe. Korean media now THIS is how you report the news. Thoroughly and ACCURATELY and without BIAS.

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  8. On a lighter note. I put in the search “Korean news – Rain Bi” in an attempt to see what other news agencies would pop up and guess what showed up first…..numero Uno. That’s right “Bi Rain News – Cloud USA”…..woot woot!! If people didn’t know Cloud USA was the place to come for Rain news they’ll know it now.

    Just wanted to make you two smile……………………………

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  9. You know, I put in a general search (doing like I always do) just to see what would pop up on the world wide web. I googled “Rain bi military scandals” and my god. It’s not just so-called “reputable” news outlets we have to contend with, but I really got a taste of why netizens exist. It’s the juvenile, entertainment gossip blogs that have carried this stuff since the whole Tae Hee incident and it’s still out there all inaccurate as can be. I just happened upon an article on Dramafever and the article is about Bi declining his last military vacation. It’s BS too. The writer is named Rhino. Although the general comments are in Bi’s favor, this Rhino character falsely accused Bi as well.

    The article is: http://blog.dramafever.com/2013/07/rain-declines-his-last-military-vacation/

    How do Clouds fight all these suckers?…news outlets and celebrity blogger wanna-bes.

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    • There’s no way to fight them all. So we just fight the ones we can, and call it a day. *sigh*

      Rain understands that concept himself pretty well.

      Stephe ^@@^

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  10. Just an FYI, everyone:

    Kathy Hewett Tsudama reported this on Facebook:

    “I received an email back from Global Post President, Phil Balboni:
    Philip S. Balboni

    To
    K Tsudama
    Thank you for calling this to my attention. I will have our editorial staff investigate and if there is indeed an error, we will surely correct it.”

    “I wrote in the comments under the article. Even more i found the site’s President’s name and contact info to email under their mission statement: We welcome your comments on the site and on our reporting and as always please feel free to contact me directly at pbalboni@globalpost.com.”

    Let’s keep pushing on and see what else comes down the pike… Thanks to all of you for what you are doing to support Rain in this matter.

    Stephe ^@@^

    P.S. According to Erzebet Both, the Korea Herald’s article said the same thing, and after she tweeted in protest (and she thinks other people might have too, she’s not sure), Rain’s name was taken out of the KH article.

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    • I am on the Korea Herald’s site simultaneously as I type this comment here and the following sentence I still see in an article entitled, “Seven celebrity soldiers sent to military prison for scandalous” (Yes, that’s where they left the title dangling).

      The sentence still in the article: “…..Earlier this year, K-pop star Rain got in trouble when paparazzi photos showed him secretly dating top actress Kim Tae-hee. He was grounded to his unit for a week for violating the code of conduct. ”

      Now what I did not see (which was good) was Rain’s name tied to the massage parlor scandal that was addressed at the opening of the article. However, by them leaving the sentence above in the article they still intend to not let Rain “get away” completely clean, if this is indeed the same article Ms. Both is referencing. So, these suckers are playing hardball.

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      • Yeah, they are. Mention Rain in your articles BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE.

        Hateful little mudskippers. YES, Rain screwed up royally in January. But can you stick to the scandal in JUNE for two seconds, please.

        Stephe ^@@^

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  11. I have asked the Global Post under this article and on Twitter to correct this article: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/yonhap-news-agency/130725/seven-celebrity-soldiers-sent-military-prison-scandalous-out

    The following passage is what I am protesting:

    The soldiers faced unprecedented tough disciplinary actions after a local TV network last month secretly taped them. They included K-pop star Rain and Seven, drinking together in a private restaurant following a performance for a military event.

    Please join me.

    Stephe ^@@^

    P.S. I have also sent an email to the Global Post editors. (editors@globalpost.com)

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    • Left a comment just now. I will send an email shortly. This is blatant bull_hit. My god!!!!!

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      • I left a reply, too, and sent an email to the editors. I think I sent a tweet, but I’m so bad at that who knows. LOL
        It is unbelievable that this information with its innuendos and lies continues to be printed. Geez…..

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    • Just emailed the editors of the Global Post. I asked that they retract or at least amend the story to reflect Rain’s NON-involvement in the massage parlor incident. I said to them it was blatantly INACCURATE reporting to continue to tie a man’s name to an incident he was NOT involved in whatsoever. It’s wrong to continue to sully this man’s name and reputation to garner newspaper ratings. I asked that they (as well as, the writer of the story) make the story right.

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  12. This is what SHOULD happen when the Korean media gets close to Bi.

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  13. Hey Terri, one more question.

    How did you get your video to post inside your Cloud Letter? What icon did you click. This is where I get frustrated with so much that’s still written in Korean.

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    • Hi, BiAlamode.

      Just got your message as I just got home from work. Hm. Let me look…

      When you click on the “Write” button the compose page opens and on the top left, right below the word “Title” there are two buttons. The first one has a little “image” icon. The second link, on the right says, “외부컨텐츠,” which means “external content.” Click on that and you’ll be given the choice to either add an “embed” code or to link to a URL. I always “embed” the YouTube videos, though, because linking to the pages never seems to work right.

      Terri :-}

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  14. Terri,Stephe I have a question regarding (the cloud) I just went on and by the mail it’s marked one. However everything is in Korean so I have no idea what it’s about. Btw I never noticed it there before? Help please?

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    • Hi, Lotus.

      Are you talking about the little envelope at the top left of the page? That is your “message” or “mailbox” and a 1 means that you have 1 message in it. That may be a message from The Cloud Executuve sent to all of the Cloud members right before Rain’s release from the military. Do you see a date on the message?

      If so, she was just giving the particulars of the release day. If I’m recalling correctly.

      Or is it a current message?

      Terri :-}

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      • No date on it. When I clicked on it it’s my page with the number 1 in red?

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        • I think that if you’ve already read the message, your mailbox should have a “0” on it, and when you click on the envelope it will open up to your page where the messages are stored. What date is on the message that is in Korean? The date will be on the far right. The date on the Korean message in my box is 7/8/2013.

          Terri :-}

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  15. Ok, is it ME or are people just not reliable these days. Were we not given explicit instructions to keep our mouths shut about any Cloud fan club activity? Yet, I see Cloud fan club info. on other entertainment sites. NO I’m Not Accusing Anyone HERE…..We know better….BUT really?? C’mon now Clouds. The information should not have been circulated period as we were asked NOT to do! Damn!

    However, with recent events it’s for the best. Bi doesn’t need to be in the public caught in the middle of the “_hit storm” the media has continued to try and make him the cause of.

    Keep fighting Honey Love…..reasonable people know the truth!

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    • Oh wow.

      I haven’t even had time to take much of a break here at work today, and maybe that’s a GOOD thing. I am praying that all of the club business that was posted externally has been removed or I’m going to go on a rampage when I get home. Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.

      Terri :-}

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  16. OMG!!–That 10 minute job was a real twisted joke. Betty Boop looks better than that on her motorcycle in comparison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rain doesn’t have to spend 10 minutes to do his eyes–just splash water on his face in the shower, shave, oil it down add fragrance and go–Waalaa!

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  17. I really dislike copy cats. Everybody is trying to have eyes like Rain–now that’s priceless!! Didn’t Rain say that he lost some acting roles because with his eyes he did not fit the role. Well, HELLO! His eyes are simply alluring and sexy and make you want to get lost in them–no make up necessary. I’d tell those copy cats to take a picture of Rain’s eyes and weep!

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    • People are trying to make their eyes smaller like Rain’s? I hadn’t heard that. I know that many Korean celebrities have had cosmetic surgery, but most have tried to make their eyes larger for a more Western appeal.

      From what I can remember, Rain has said that in his early days during the auditioning phase of his career he was told that he was unattractive and his eyes were too small. I haven’t heard of anything else regarding his eyes as of late. We Clouds here think he’s naturally gorgeous just as he is and I think he’s read it enough times from all of us to believe it by now. So I don’t think he will do anything to mar his beautiful self.

      The video below was just something fun and interesting to post, since several Clouds here watch Anime. It didn’t have anything to do with Rain. I like to post other things of interest from time to time. I think the young lady below is quite good at creating the “illusion” of anime eyes actually. I know I couldn’t do it.

      *SMILES*…………………………………..

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  18. Now on to something fun, kinda cool and kinda creepy all rolled up into one. She’s got talent that’s for sure.

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    • Wow. Okay, I don’t know whether to be amused or creeped out. LOL.

      Terri :-}

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    • BiA, actually in Japan their having plastic surgery on their eyes to look like that. It’s called the anime look. YouTube it.

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      • That’s crazy is it not? Getting surgery….wow. I thought it was odd just to see them put those Anime contact lenses in their eyes. Those things were bad enough. However, it is oddly fascinating to me though. *SMILES*………………………

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  19. Well, in checking my email this morning this general response from CNN was waiting for me. Nothing earth shattering, but a response that I didn’t expect At All actually. It’s as follows:

    From
    CNNI.Programming.Communications

    To
    (*my email address*)

    Greetings,

    Thank you for taking the time to submit your comment to CNNI. This message is your confirmation that we have successfully received it. Due to incredible volume we are unable to personally reply to every message, but we do read each and every one. Your comment will become part of our daily feedback report, which is shared internally with our show’s teams and senior management. Your opinion matters, and we sincerely appreciate that you took the time to share it with us.

    Emails are read in the order received, so if you used this comment form to send us a question or a story idea that’s ok, but please allow time for us to route your message to the appropriate person.

    Thanks again for your comment, and keep your browser pointed to CNN | The Most Trusted Name in News

    CNN Viewer Services
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  20. Stephe I LOVE this first picture of Rain!! He looks HOT!! Also, the Vonin campaign is awesome, hotness overload!! 😀

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  21. I left my two cents in that trash of an article on CNN. GRRRRRR I was so mad when I read that I saw red!! 😡 Seriously, this situation with Rain has gone too far!! >.<

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  22. Well for better or worse I just sent an email to CNN. I could not find a direct email for Frances Cha. I went to the CNN “Contact Us” page, I scrolled down to CNN International and click on “General Comments.” I then left the following for Ms. Cha:

    “This comment is for Ms. Frances Cha writer of the article entitled, “Scandals Prompt South Koreans to Dissolve Celebrity Soldier Unit.” I am sending the email because I take issue with Ms. Cha’s completely biased slant at making S. Korean entertainer Rain the “poster boy” for the recent military scandals that have rocked the military. I feel Ms. Cha didn’t research her facts fully. She should refer to the following articles credited to Stephe Thornton of Cloud USA. They are well reasoned and researched articles. Please refer to them. They are as follows: (*I put links to 5 of your articles regarding this subject*).

    I concluded with: Ms. Cha I hope after thoroughly reading these articles you will conclude that you were hasty in making Rain the “bad boy” image for your article. He has been unfairly portrayed as far as I’m concerned and I would hope you would consider amending your article. Thank you.”

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  23. Likes the 6 pack abs–I really like the whole package! One handsome young man with a charismic personality! No haters in the fan mix! Only have love for Rain! Thanks for sharing!

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  24. WOW. Look at this piece of trash.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/23/world/asia/south-korean-celeb-soldiers/index.html

    Rain was NOT out drinking with that group of soldiers. And his duties did not just consist of posing for military posters. Damn it. Fans really need to take over that thread!

    Stephe ^@@^

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    • WTF? I’ve sent them your 3rd article on the bull. This has gone to damn far!!!! I hope all Clouds retweet!!!!

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    • Frances Cha wrote the article at CNN. What I’m trying to do is find an email addy for her so that I can email a comment directly to her along with the link to your article Stephe. For those of you who tweet and are on twitter she has a twitter account (Frances Cha @lumintree). Her lead in tweet right now is a link and its entitled “K-Pop and Military Scandals. So you tweeting Clouds get to work and flood her twitter. Make her retract that damned story. I know black folks got on twitter and stopped Juror 37 from getting a book deal off of Trayvon Martin’s death trial by flooding the twitter of miss thing’s literary agent. So it can be done.

      Miss Cha obviously writes for the travel side of CNN. Again, I am looking for a direct email. I don’t want to comment among some of the idiot commenters below her VERY SLANTED, BIASED ANTI-Rain article. I want to talk to girlfriend directly.

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      • *thumbs up*

        ^@@^

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      • I certainly do hope Clouds can take the time to do this today. Her article really irritated me this morning when I read it, but I had to get to work and couldn’t take the time to complain.

        All I can say is they must let anyone work as a reporter at CNN these days, because none of their stories appear to be written by what I would call respectable journalists. And by that I mean journalists who do more than read a few online newspapers to research their stories.

        Sigh.

        Terri :-}

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        • You know it seems it doesn’t matter what country we’re talking about anymore. Journalistic integrity has gone by way of the dinosaur. Case in point, the article at the link below. If you have FB or Dramafever, you’ve probably seen this already but for those who haven’t here is another piss poor, half-witted article that could hardly be counted among those that have been fully researched. This article CLEARLY doesn’t account for a whole HOST of people. They have THE nerve to call people “low-brow”…..Really?? Oh btw, the article comes from the “geniuses” at The Wall Street Journal.

          http://blogs.wsj.com/scene/2013/07/23/south-korean-soap-operas-just-lowbrow-fun/

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          • Wow, that is effed up! I’m glad people went ham on them!

            Stephe ^@@^

            P.S. In the article’s defense, the writer wasn’t saying that Korean dramas were for the “low brow”, s/he was reporting the finds of a study. My thing is why is stuff like this, which will obviously hurt people when it’s posted, not started off with a disclaimer, written in a better tone, or better yet, not be put up at all.

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        • I was so angry with this article. Why is it so hard for people to just print the facts? I’ve emailed and tweeted. I hope many more Clouds do the same and I hope it helps.

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      • BiA, just found out we can spam it all day/night but actually the publication is who has to retract the story.

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        • That’s fine just so long as CNN at least “hears” our voices and knows that we are not satisfied with that story. I hope it will at least give them pause with respect to subsequent stories regarding the Korean military and Bi specifically.

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        • Okay I have no idea whats going on but I had to use my fb(log in) to be able to leave comments from my pc? Any suggestions? So now I have this one on my pc and my yellow lotus from my phone? Whats going.

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